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Panpsychism & AI

The Founding Event

April 24, 2025Venture Labs, Vancouver5 required readings
"Panpsychism overcomes the 'hard problem of consciousness' by simply assuming consciousness exists as an aspect of physical matter."
Participant J

Interactive Explorations

Experience the key concepts of panpsychism through interactive visualizations

Consciousness Spectrum

Explore how consciousness might scale from electrons to humans. Where does the "light" come on?

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Physical Description

Pain responses, social behaviors

"What it's like to be..." (speculative)

Cold water on scales, the pull of the school

The Combination Problem

If electrons have micro-consciousness, how do they combine into unified experience?
Click to add conscious particles. Watch them try to combine.

Click anywhere to add conscious particles

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The Problem: If each electron has a tiny bit of experience, why don't the 86 billion neurons in your brain feel like 86 billion separate experiences? How does unified consciousness emerge from many micro-consciousnesses? This is the combination problem— panpsychism's greatest challenge.

The Hard Problem of Consciousness

Why is there something it's like to have an experience? How does physical stuff produce felt quality?

PHYSICAL PROCESS
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620-750nm photons hit retina
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L-cones fire, M-cones inhibit
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V4 cortex processes "red"
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Neural pattern: 01101001...
SUBJECTIVE EXPERIENCE
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"The vivid, warm, intense REDNESS you experience"

THE EXPLANATORY GAP

How do you get from neurons firing to the felt quality of experience?

Physicalism's Answer

"Consciousness emerges from physical complexity. We just don't understand how yet."

Panpsychism's Answer

"Consciousness is fundamental—like mass or charge. There's no gap because it's built into reality."

Philosophy of Mind Landscape

Where does panpsychism fit? Click nodes to explore the philosophical positions.

Click any node to explore that philosophical position

Central Question

"If Panpsychism is true, what are the implications for conscious AI?"

Outcome

Established MAC's foundational tension: Is consciousness fundamental (panpsychism) or emergent (IIT/GWT)? This tension drives all subsequent Deep Dives.

Key Debates

  • 1Is consciousness fundamental to matter or does it emerge from complexity?
  • 2The Combination Problem: How do atomic bits of consciousness combine into unified experience?
  • 3Can silicon-based AI have consciousness if panpsychism is true?

Notable Quotes

"MAC is the space where we don't shy away from the hard problem. We're not here to build chatbots or optimize models. We're here to ask: What does it mean to have an inner life? And if machines gain that capacity, what then?"
Participant J
"Panpsychism overcomes the 'hard problem of consciousness' by simply assuming consciousness exists as an aspect of physical matter. But it runs hard into the Combination Problem—if every atom has a tiny bit of consciousness, how does the specific configuration of atoms constituting a brain result in a human consciousness from atomic bits of consciousness?"
Participant J
"You will find many people in the group that have personality traits that are often associated with what are termed ASD and ADHD. Many people have high clock speeds and it is not a disorder, the same is true of having very deep imaginations. This is a safe place for creative people with unique mindsets."
Participant L
"I didn't know HOW different I was. I thought visualization was BS, and turns out my mind's eye is entirely blank. I am aphant, meaning my consciousness stream is not visual, but all systems and concepts."
Participant Q

Required Readings

Wikipedia: Panpsychism
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Conscious
Annaka Harris
Irreducible
Federico Faggin
Consciousness and Fundamental Reality
Philip Goff
What Creates Consciousness?
Chalmers & Seth

Stats

Attendance11/20
Duration2 hours
PriceFree
Readings5 items